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		<title>High Court says something about VCAT</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Osland v Secretary to the Department of Justice [2010] HCA 24, Chief Justice French, and Justices Gummow and Bell said: &#8216;The jurisdiction and powers of the Court of Appeal 17.  It is necessary to refer to the nature of the jurisdiction and powers of the Court of Appeal in an appeal from an order [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em>Osland v Secretary to the Department of Justice</em> [2010] HCA 24, Chief Justice French, and Justices Gummow and Bell said:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8216;<em>The jurisdiction and powers of the Court of Appeal</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">17.  It is necessary to refer to the nature of the jurisdiction and powers of  the Court of Appeal in an appeal from an order of the Tribunal.  That jurisdiction and those powers continued to define<strong> </strong>the functions of the Court on  the remitter of the appeal for further hearing.  The relevant jurisdiction  and powers are set out in <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">s 148</a> of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/">VCAT Act</a>, which provides, inter alia:<span id="more-2032"></span></p>
<blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;<strong>Appeals from the Tribunal</strong></p>
<p>(1)	A party to a proceeding may appeal, on a question of law, from an  order of the Tribunal in the proceeding—</p>
<p>(a)	to the Court of Appeal, if the Tribunal was constituted for the  purpose of making the order by the President or a Vice President, whether with or without others; or</p>
<p>(b)	to the Trial Division of the Supreme Court in any other case—<br />
if the Court of Appeal or the Trial Division, as the case requires,  gives leave to appeal.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>(7)	The Court of Appeal or the Trial Division, as the case requires, may  make any of the following orders on an appeal—</p>
<p>(a)	an order affirming, varying or setting aside the order of the  Tribunal;</p>
<p>(b)	an order that the Tribunal could have made in the proceeding;</p>
<p>(c)	an order remitting the proceeding to be heard and decided again,  either with or without the hearing of further evidence, by the Tribunal in accordance with the directions of the court;</p>
<p>(d)	any other order the court thinks appropriate.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">18. <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">Section  148</a> confers &#8220;judicial power to examine for legal error what has  been  done in an administrative tribunal&#8221;<strong><a name="fnB40" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn40">[40]</a></strong>.    Despite the description of proceedings under the section as an  &#8220;appeal&#8221;,  it confers original not appellate jurisdiction; the  proceedings are &#8220;in the nature of judicial review&#8221;<strong><a name="fnB41" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn41">[41]</a></strong>.The jurisdiction conferred by <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">s 148(1)</a> is confined to appeals on  questions of law.  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">Section 148(7)</a> does not enlarge that  jurisdiction.  It confers powers on the court in aid of its exercise<strong><a name="fnB42" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn42">[42]</a></strong>.   That feature of <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">s 148</a> resembles <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aata1975323/s44.html">s 44</a> of the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aata1975323/">Administrative Appeals</a> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aata1975323/">Tribunal Act </a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aata1975323/">1975</a> (Cth) (&#8220;the Commonwealth AAT Act&#8221;),  which defines the analogous jurisdiction of the Federal Court to hear appeals on questions  of law<strong> </strong>against decisions of the Administrative Appeals Tribunal  (AAT).  Under s 44(4) of the Commonwealth AAT Act, the Federal Court, in determining an appeal, may &#8220;make such order as it thinks appropriate by reason of its decision&#8221;.  But wide as that power may be, the Court &#8220;should not usurp the fact-finding function of the AAT&#8221;<strong><a name="fnB43" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn43">[43]</a></strong>.   Those observations turn upon the text of s 44.  They do not depend upon  the separation of judicial and executive powers, which limits the functions that can be conferred upon federal courts.  They have application to the  jurisdiction conferred upon the Court of Appeal by s 148 of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/">VCAT Act</a>, which is, in concept and in terms, modelled on, although not identical to, <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s44.html">s 44</a><strong><a name="fnB44" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn44">[44]</a></strong>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">19.  The Court of Appeal, in the exercise of its jurisdiction under <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">s 148</a> of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/">VCAT Act</a>, may make substitutive orders  where only one conclusion is open on the correct application of the<strong> </strong>law to the facts found by the  Tribunal.  Such a case arises when<strong> </strong>no other conclusion could reasonably be entertained<strong><a name="fnB45" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fn45">[45]</a></strong>. In that event, the Court can make the order that the Tribunal should  have made.  The language of <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/s148.html">s 148(7)</a> is also wide enough to allow the  Court of Appeal to make substitutive orders in other circumstances.  But its powers must,  as with the equivalent powers of the Federal Court in relation to the AAT, be  exercised having regard to the limited<strong> </strong>nature of the appeal.  Absent such restraint, a question of law would open the door to an appeal by way of rehearing.  Where there is a factual matter that has to be determined as a consequence of the appeal, it may be that it is able conveniently to be determined by the Court of Appeal upon uncontested evidence or primary facts already found by the Tribunal.  When the outstanding issue involves the formation of an opinion which is, as in this case, based upon  considerations of public interest, then it should in the ordinary case be remitted to the body established for the purpose of making that essentially factual,  evaluative and ministerial judgment.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn40" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB40">[40]</a></strong> <em>Roy Morgan Research Centre Pty Ltd v Commissioner of State Revenue (Vict)</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/49.html">[2001] HCA 49</a>;  (2001) 207 CLR 72 at 79  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/49.html#para15">[15]</a> per Gaudron, Gummow, Hayne and Callinan JJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/49.html">[2001] HCA 49.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn41" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB41">[41]</a></strong> <em>Roy Morgan Research Centre Pty Ltd v Commissioner of State Revenue (Vict) </em><a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/49.html">[2001] HCA 49</a>;  (2001) 207 CLR 72 at 79  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/49.html#para15">[15]</a> per Gaudron, Gummow, Hayne and Callinan JJ.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn42" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB42">[42]</a></strong> The distinction between jurisdiction and power has been made repeatedly in this Court:  <em>Thomson Australian  Holdings Pty Ltd v Trade Practices Commission</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1981/48.html">[1981] HCA 48</a>;  (1981) 148 CLR 150 at 161-162 per Gibbs CJ, Stephen, Mason and Wilson JJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1981/48.html">[1981] HCA 48</a>; <em>Jackson v  Sterling Industries Ltd </em><a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1987/32.html">[1987] HCA 23</a>;  (1987) 162 CLR 612 at 616 per Mason CJ, 619 per Wilson and Dawson JJ, 627-628 per Toohey J;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1987/32.html">[1987] HCA 23</a>; <em>Patrick Stevedores  Operations No 2 Pty Ltd v Maritime Union of Australia</em> (1998) 195 CLR 1 at 29 [27]-[28], 32 [35] per Brennan CJ, McHugh, Gummow, Kirby and  Hayne JJ; [1998] HCA 30; <em>Lipohar v The Queen</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1999/65.html">[1999] HCA 65</a>;  (1999) 200 CLR 485 at 516-517  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1999/65.html#para78">[78]</a> per Gaudron, Gummow and Hayne JJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1999/65.html">[1999] HCA 65</a>; <em>Australian  Securities and Investments Commission v Edensor Nominees Pty Ltd</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/1.html">[2001] HCA 1</a>;  (2001) 204 CLR 559 at 590  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/1.html#para64">[64]</a>- <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/1.html#para65">[65]</a> per Gleeson CJ, Gaudron and Gummow  JJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/1.html">[2001] HCA 1</a>; <em>Keramianakis  v Regional Publishers Pty Ltd </em><a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2009/18.html">[2009] HCA 18</a>;  (2009) 237 CLR 268 at 280  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2009/18.html#para36">[36]</a> per French CJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2009/18.html">[2009] HCA 18.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn43" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB43">[43]</a></strong> <em>Repatriation Commission v O&#8217;Brien</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/10.html">[1985] HCA 10</a>;  (1985) 155 CLR 422 at 430 per Gibbs CJ, Wilson and Dawson JJ;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/10.html">[1985] HCA 10.</a> See also <em>Harris v Director-General of Social Security</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/1.html">1985] HCA 1</a>;  (1985) 59 ALJR 194 at 198 per Gibbs CJ, Brennan, Deane and Dawson JJ; <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/1.html">1985] HCA 1</a>;  57 ALR 729 at 735-736;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/1.html">[1985] HCA 1</a>; cf <em>Roncevich  v Repatriation Commission</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2005/40.html">[2005] HCA 40</a>;  (2005) 222 CLR 115 at 126  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2005/40.html#para28">[28]</a> per McHugh, Gummow, Callinan and  Heydon JJ, 146 [101] per Kirby J;  <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2005/40.html">[2005] HCA 40.</a><em> </em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn44" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB44">[44]</a></strong> The <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/vcaata1998428/">VCAT Act</a> replaced the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/hist_act/aata1984323/">Administrative Appeals Tribunal Act</a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/hist_act/aata1984323/"> 1984</a> (Vic), which was inspired by the Commonwealth AAT Act, as appears from the Second Reading Speech for the Administrative Appeals Tribunal Bill 1984:  Victoria, Legislative Assembly, <em>Parliamentary Debates </em>(Hansard), 20 September 1984 at 664-665.   Section 52 of the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/hist_act/aata1984323/">Administrative Appeals Tribunal Act</a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/hist_act/aata1984323/"> 1984</a> (Vic) resembled s 44 of the Commonwealth AAT Act.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><a name="fn45" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/HCA/2010/24.html?stem=0&amp;synonyms=0&amp;query=title%28%222010%20HCA%2024%22%29&amp;nocontext=1#fnB45">[45]</a></strong> <em>Repatriation Commission v O&#8217;Brien</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/10.html">[1985] HCA 10</a>;  (1985) 155 CLR 422 at 430 per Gibbs CJ, Wilson and Dawson JJ.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Can you serve VCAT proceedings on defendants outside Victoria?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Gluyas v Google Inc [2010] VCAT 540, an Australian blogger sued Google in VCAT.  Google Inc is an American company.  VCAT struck out the suit on another basis, but indicated that there are no provisions for the service of VCAT applications on persons outside Australia, unlike in the Supreme Court, so that VCAT probably [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em>Gluyas v Google Inc </em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2010/540.html">[2010] VCAT 540</a>, an Australian blogger sued Google in VCAT.  Google Inc is an American company.  VCAT struck out the suit on another basis, but indicated that there are no provisions for the service of VCAT applications on persons outside Australia, unlike in the Supreme Court, so that VCAT probably had no jurisdiction unless Google Inc consented to it exercising jurisdiction, which Google did not do.  Some tribunal proceedings with a link to Victoria may be served in other states and territories under <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/saeopa1992325/index.html#s54">Part 4</a> of the <em>Service and Execution of Process Act, 1992. </em></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 11:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Gluyas v Google Inc [2010] VCAT 540, an Australian blogger took Google to VCAT to complain about the content of a blog published in America on Google&#8217;s blogger platform.  The blog criticised people with the blogger&#8217;s disability. The blogger sought relief under the Equal Opportunity Act, 1995 (Vic.), claiming that Google had authorised or [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <em>Gluyas v Google Inc </em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2010/540.html">[2010]  VCAT 540</a>, an Australian blogger took Google to VCAT to complain about the content of a blog published in America on Google&#8217;s blogger platform.  The blog criticised people with the blogger&#8217;s disability. The blogger sought relief under the <em>Equal Opportunity Act, 1995</em> (Vic.), claiming that Google had authorised or assisted the American blogger to discriminate against the class of persons suffering his disability, and against him personally.  The Act does prohibit such assistance and authorisation, but  Google applied to strike out the suit on the basis that the alleged conduct occurred in America, and the <em>Equal Opportunity Act </em>did not regulate the conduct of Americans in America, or in legal language, the Act did not have extra-territorial operation.  Deputy President McNamara agreed.  There is nothing startling about this application of well-worn principles, but this blog sometimes just restates things which people like me need reminding of from time to time.<span id="more-1915"></span>Google&#8217;s counsel&#8217;s arguments were summarised as follows:</p>
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<li>He submitted that the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/">Equal Opportunity Act</a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/"> 1995</a> has no extraterritorial operation. He said the ordinary presumption attaching to the general  words of an enactment of a parliament such as Victoria’s was that it intended to govern only matters within Victoria’s territory. He referred to <em>Jumbunna Coal Mine NL v Victorian Coal Miners Association </em> <a title="View LawCiteRecord" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281908%29%206%20CLR%20309">(1908) 6 CLR 309</a>, 363 per O’Connor J; <em>Boath v Wyvill </em> <a title="View LawCiteRecord" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281989%29%2085%20ALR%20621">(1989) 85 ALR 621</a>,  636. This principle was, he said, codified by <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/s48.html">Section 48</a> of the Victorian’s <em>Interpretation of Legislation Act </em>1984, which he said provided  that in construing a Victorian statute ‘<em>a reference to a &#8230; matter or thing should be construed as a reference to such &#8230; matter or thing in and of Victoria</em>’. He submitted that the general words of the Victorian Statute should not be construed as extending to matters governed by foreign law. He referred to <em>Wanganui-Rangitikei Electric Power Board v Australian  Mutual Provident Society </em><a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1934/3.html">[1934] HCA 3</a>;   <a title="View LawCiteRecord" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281934%29%2050%20CLR%20581">(1934) 50 CLR 581</a>,  601 per Dixon J.</li>
<li>He said these principles were exemplified with respect to the  anti-discrimination jurisdiction in this Tribunal by two decisions of Deputy President McKenzie which applied the same principle, mainly <em>Cooper v State of Victoria </em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2003/589.html">[2003] VCAT 589</a> and <em>Reid  v Jet Aviation Management AG</em> <a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2000/1848.html">[2000] VCAT 1848.</a> The latter case, he said, indicated that a matter could fall  beyond the reach of the Victorian Act even where certain elements of the dispute occurred within or were connected with Victoria. He said according to Deputy  President McKenzie it was the treatment of the complainant by the alleged discriminator which was the key issue in determining whether the Victorian Act applied  or not.&#8217;</li>
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<p>Deputy President McNamara observed that:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8216;&#8230; whilst <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aa1986114/s2.html">Section 2(1)</a> of the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aa1986114/">Australia Act </a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aa1986114/">1986</a> empowers Victoria’s Parliament to legislate extraterritorially, so long as the  extraterritorial legislation can be seen as for the peace, order and good government of Victoria, nevertheless no party has contended that enacting the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/">Equal Opportunity</a> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/">Act</a></em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/eoa1995250/"> 1995</a> the Victorian Parliament was  purporting to legislate extraterritorially in exercise of their power granted and conferred to  it by <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aa1986114/s2.html">Section 2(1)</a> of the <em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/aa1986114/">Australia Act</a></em>.&#8217;</p>
<p>The Deputy President accepted that the gravamen of the Australian blogger&#8217;s complaint was a failure to take down the American blogger&#8217;s blog.  The conduct required to take down the blog would have occurred in America, and so the failure to take it down, if established, must also have occurred in America.  That made this case different from <em>Dow Jones &amp; Company Inc v Gutnick </em> <a title="View LawCiteRecord" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%282002%29%20210%20CLR%20575">(2002) 210 CLR  575</a>, a defamation case in which it was decided that material published in America on the internet and downloaded in Australia was published in Australia for the purposes of Australian defamation law.</p>
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		<title>Changes to legal professional privilege operate retrospectively</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2010/03/04/changes-to-legal-professional-privilege-operate-retrospectively/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[They&#8217;ve changed the law in relation to legal professional privilege on us. The common law has been abolished, at least in relation to compulsory processes (discovery, subpoenas, interrogatories, notice to produce) in fora where the new Evidence Act, 2008 applies, and the adduction of evidence in those fora. Two legal professional privilege regimes are now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve changed the law in relation to legal professional privilege on us. The common law has been abolished, at least in relation to compulsory processes (discovery, subpoenas, interrogatories, notice to produce) in fora where the new <em>Evidence Act, 2008</em> applies, and the adduction of evidence in those fora. Two legal professional privilege regimes are now going to apply in relation to any particular communication.  If the Tax Man, or the Legal Services Commissioner, compels you to produce documents, the common law will apply.  If you produce them, the common law will determine whether the production amounts to a waiver.  If the investigation leads to court (but not VCAT) proceedings proceedings, to which the new law will apply, you might be compelled by subpoena to produce documents you successfully resisted producing in the investigation pursuant to the common law.  Furthermore, in those proceedings, the Court will decide for itself, under the new law, whether the production to the Commissioner in the investigation amounted to a waiver or not.</p>
<p>The change is not as great as it might have been had the uniform evidence law been introduced into our land prior to the last round of amendments.  Now the law relating to implied waiver of privilege is stated in more or less the same terms as the common law, as expounded by <em>Mann v Carnell</em>, and the new law applies to post-commencement but pre-trial stages of court cases as well as at trial.  But there are differences too: Justice Byrne&#8217;s decision referred to below confirms it.</p>
<p>I blogged about the transitional provisions for the new legislation <a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/2010/01/01/transitional-provisions-for-introduction-of-evidence-act-2008-vic/">here</a>.  It occurred to me that since the Hikers are so fond of emphasising what a basic common law right the right to assert legal professional privilege over confidential communications is, there was a real question about whether the changes ought to operate retrospectively, in the sense that communications which occurred before this year (i.e. before the commencement of the new Act) which were already entitled to legal professional privilege at common law might be adjudged not to be privileged for the purposes of proceedings governed by the new Act.  There is a presumption in statutory interpretation against the retrospective taking away of accrued rights.  But there is no such presumption in relation to changing procedures for the vindication of rights.</p>
<p>Someone has actually already run this esoteric argument.  In <em>Main-Road Property Group Pty Ltd v Pelligra &amp; Sons Pty Ltd (No 4)</em> [2010] VSC 27, Justice Byrne, who knows a thing or two about the law of evidence, gave the argument short shrift, though his views are purely dicta:<span id="more-1777"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8217;33  The first question is whether the claim for privilege should be addressed under the <em>Evidence Act 2008</em> or under the pre-existing statutory or common law regime.  It was at first submitted on behalf of the Artusa parties that the entitlement to legal professional privilege is a substantial rather than a procedural right and it should therefore be governed by the law as it stood in 2003 rather than by the <em>Uniform Act</em> which came into force on 1 January 2010.  This submission was not pressed in final address and in my view, rightly so.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">34  The transitional provisions contained in clause 2 of Schedule 2 of the <em>Evidence Act</em> <em>2008</em> make it clear that the Act applies to a hearing commencing after the commencement date, 1 January 2010.  The provisions of Part 3.10, Division 1, differ from the pre-existing common law and the <em>Evidence Act 1958</em>.  In <em>Telstra Corporation v Australis Media Holdings,</em><a href="http://www.lexisnexis.com.au/URJNotifier/vic/1000997.htm#_ftn4">[4]</a> McClelland CJ in Eq concluded that the provisions of the New South Wales <em>Uniform Evidence Act 1995</em> were inconsistent with the previous law concerning legal professional privilege so that the previous law did not apply to the trial before the court.<a href="http://www.lexisnexis.com.au/URJNotifier/vic/1000997.htm#_ftn5">[5]</a> I would respectfully adopt his Honour&#8217;s observations which are equally applicable to the Victorian <em>Evidence Act 2008</em>.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://www.lexisnexis.com.au/URJNotifier/vic/1000997.htm#_ftnref4">[4]</a> (1997) 41 NSWLR 346 at 349.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://www.lexisnexis.com.au/URJNotifier/vic/1000997.htm#_ftnref5">[5]</a> See also <em>Evidence Act </em>2008 (Vic) ss 9, 56(1).&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Justice Ian Ross VCAT&#8217;s new President</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2010/02/25/justice-ian-ross-vcats-new-president/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 07:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the Victorian Bar, the Supreme Court&#8217;s Justice Ross has been appointed President of VCAT. That does not mean he is no longer a Supreme Court judge; he will be both.  Justice Morris, two Presidents ago, used to hear cases in both jurisdictions. It did not occur to me when his Honour leapt from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Victorian Bar, the Supreme Court&#8217;s Justice Ross has been appointed President of VCAT. That does not mean he is no longer a Supreme Court judge; he will be both.  Justice Morris, two Presidents ago, used to hear cases in both jurisdictions. It did not occur to me when his Honour leapt from VCAT to the Supreme Court recently (see <a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/11/20/vcats-judge-ross-appointed-to-the-high-court/">my post at the time</a>) that this might be in the wind; Justice Kevin Bell was appointed President only in March 2008, but it seems that was always a 2 year term.  It will be interesting to see whether Justice Ross will see much business in the Legal Practice List, to which he is accustomed.</p>
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		<title>VCAT&#8217;s Judge Ross appointed to the Supreme Court</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/11/20/vcats-judge-ross-appointed-to-the-high-court/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judge Iain Ross, who was the head honcho of VCAT&#8217;s Legal Practice List, and the Tribunal&#8217;s Vice-President, has been appointed to the Supreme Court, presumably taking up the spot left behind by a good and honourable man and quiet champion of human rights, Justice David Harper, who has been appointed to the Court of Appeal.  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Iain Ross, who was the head honcho of VCAT&#8217;s Legal Practice List, and the Tribunal&#8217;s Vice-President, has been appointed to the Supreme Court, presumably taking up the spot left behind by a good and honourable man and quiet champion of human rights, Justice David Harper, who has been appointed to the Court of Appeal.  People from the generation before me typically seem to confuse him with Judge Les Ross, also a County Court judge, who retired in 2005.  Justice Ross was appointed a Vice-President of the Australian Industrial Relations Commission at the age of 35 in 1994, and was there until he went off to Corrs briefly in early 2006.  His Honour has been a County Court judge since 2007, and remained so as VCAT&#8217;s Vice-President. He was in charge of alternative dispute resolution at VCAT, and once referred to mediation my client&#8217;s application for orders compelling the Legal Services Commissioner to provide further and better particulars of a professional misconduct charge.  Austlii records <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinosrch.cgi?method=auto;meta=%2Fau;mask_path=au%2Fcases%2Fvic%2FVCAT;mask_world=;query=%22I%20J%20K%20Ross%22%20and%20%22%28Legal%20Practice%29%22;results=20;submit=Search;rank=on;callback=off;legisopt=;view=date;max=;offset=0">numerous careful and thorough decisions</a> of his Honour in Legal Practice List matters, many of which <a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/?s=%22Judge+Ross%22">I have blogged</a>.</p>
<p>I did not even know that his Honour had commenced hearing cases in his new role, but <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/killer-has-the-right-to-drive-cab-20091119-ioxo.html"><em>The Age</em>&#8216;s front page today</a> records that he is hearing an appeal from VCAT in the case about the taxi driver who, long ago, stabbed his wife to death under the grip of a psychosis from which he has now recovered.  The case was <em>XJF v Director of Public Transport</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2008/2303.html">[2008] VCAT 2303</a>, a decision of Deputy-President Macnamara who seems to have moved into Justice Ross&#8217;s old spot as head honcho of the Legal Practice List.  I posted about the decision <a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/08/04/sex-offence-doctors-vcat-success-stayed-pending-appeal/">here</a>.  Attorney-General Hulls&#8217;s press release says:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span id="more-1579"></span>&#8216;Judge Ross was appointed to the County Court in 2007 and currently serves as a Deputy<br />
President of the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, overseeing the Civil Division. Judge<br />
Ross is also a part-time Commissioner at the Victorian Law Reform Commission.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">“Judge Ross brings extensive experience in dispute resolution, employment, workplace relations<br />
and administrative law,” Mr Hulls said.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Before his appointment Judge Ross was Vice President of the Australian Industrial Relations<br />
Commission and a partner at Corrs Chambers Westgarth. He also holds a doctorate from<br />
Sydney University.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>VCAT decision overturned for appearance of bias</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/11/19/vcat-decision-overturned-for-appearance-of-bias/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two men litigated a case over $10,000 in VCAT&#8217;s Civil List before a sessional member. As per the norm in that list, they were unrepresented. That Civil List is a place a world away from the proceedings you read about in the law reports.  I must say I like the idea of an accessible tribunal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two men litigated a case over $10,000 in VCAT&#8217;s Civil List before a sessional member. As per the norm in that list, they were unrepresented. That Civil List is a place a world away from the proceedings you read about in the law reports.  I must say I like the idea of an accessible tribunal where people can get the catharsis of a judicial determination, without the expenditure on legal fees which is impossible for most people. And I like to think that there is a class of case where the quality of legal representation which can be obtained for a price which is proportionate to the amount at stake is in fact such that the diligent and ordinarily intelligent litigant who is all over his or her case, and may have sought out some legal advice along the way, is likely to do better himself than with the kind of representation he can afford.  It is a tough job being a member down there.  All sorts of legal problems get thrown at them and they are expected to churn through them in a fraction of the time a Court would take, and give<em> ex tempore</em> decisions.  Judges in superior courts have an easier time because counsel present relatively recognisable legal theories of disputes in a relatively predictable way.  Arguments devised by people who do not think within the same structures that experienced lawyers do throw up odd ideas the appraisal of which is difficult for the very reason that they are odd.</p>
<p>But it is important that the Civil List actually apply the law, even if it dispenses with its more technical excrescences, and review by superior courts from time to time (incredibly rare, if you look at the statistics) remains important.  Justice Habersberger considered that justice in one case had got so rough that the appellant deserved another go, and set aside VCAT&#8217;s decision: <em>Leon Holdings Pty Ltd v O&#8217;Donnell</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VICSC/2009/430.html?&amp;nocontext=1">[2009] VSC 430</a>.  The rules of evidence may not bind the tribunal, his Honour said, but whatever rules are adopted in relation to evidence, they must be applied even handedly.  When the member allowed one man to tender hearsay evidence without demur but then refused to hear the other man&#8217;s hearsay evidence despite the absence of any objection by his opponent, she created a perception of bias:<span id="more-1575"></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8217;72	It was up to the Tribunal whether or not to allow hearsay evidence.  But, in my opinion, whatever course was adopted, it had to be even-handed and treat both parties the same.  I consider that the Member did not do this when she refused to listen to Mr Flinkier’s hearsay evidence about what Mr Black said, after she had received without demur the hearsay evidence from Mr O’Donnell about what he was told by Mr Lindburgh.  Although the latter evidence was really irrelevant, the Member gave no indication that she was rejecting it.  The important point is that because of the way in which the Member handled the hearsay evidence issue, the appearance was given that she was not treating both parties in the same way.  Thus, I consider that a fair minded lay observer might reasonably conclude that the Tribunal might not bring an impartial and unprejudiced mind to the resolution of Mr O’Donnell’s claim when she treated Mr Flinkier and Mr O’Donnell so differently with respect to the giving of hearsay evidence.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Procedure in VCAT merits reviews</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/11/01/procedure-in-vcat-merits-reviews/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In recent times, I have not found legal regulators forthcoming in advising in advance the evidence to be tendered against a practitioner, and have generally sought directions for disclosure where it could not be sorted out between the parties&#8217; representatives, sometimes attracting ire in the process.  I have had disagreements, too, about who should go [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In recent times, I have not found legal regulators forthcoming in advising in advance the evidence to be tendered against a practitioner, and have generally sought directions for disclosure where it could not be sorted out between the parties&#8217; representatives, sometimes attracting ire in the process.  I have had disagreements, too, about who should go first in a merits review where one of the outcomes of the review involves a penalty (e.g. a fine, or suspension from practice).  Usually, the plaintiff or applicant or appellant goes first, but in a review of a decision by VCAT standing in the shoes of the decision maker, it kind of makes sense for the decision maker to justify the decision first, especially if the decision is for example that the applicant is no longer a fit and proper person to practise law.  I did get an order in a review of a decision to cancel without notice my client&#8217;s practising certificate that the Law Institute should prove why he was not a fit and proper person before I had to respond.  Now, such orders should be routine.</p>
<p><em>MH6 v Mental Health Review Board </em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VICSC/2008/345.html">[2008] VSC 345</a>, an appeal from a VCAT decision,  tackles these issues head on, filling out some of the implications of the <a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/2008/11/05/vcat-reversed-for-ignoring-penalty-privilege-in-merits-review-of-disciplinary-proceeding/">Court&#8217;s earlier decisio</a><a href="http://lawyerslawyer.net/2008/11/05/vcat-reversed-for-ignoring-penalty-privilege-in-merits-review-of-disciplinary-proceeding/">n</a> in <em>Towie&#8217;s Case</em> confirming that professional discipline proceedings which may result in fines or interference with an entitlement to practise are proceedings for a penalty.  The Court declined in the circumstances of this case to find that there had been a denial of procedural fairness such as to require reversal of VCAT&#8217;s decision to make the applicant go first (the main circumstances were the absence of any objection to the applicant going first by his trial counsel, and the fact that the applicant had forewarning of the Mental Health Review Board&#8217;s evidence in the form of witness statements served in advance).  But I do not think you will find VCAT in merits reviews of this kind making the applicant (i.e. the subject of the administrative decision) go first in a merits review hearing again.  For the Court constituted by Justice of Appeal Redlich and Acting Justice of Appeal Hargreave said:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8217;26	The submission of the respondent cannot be sustained.  It focussed on the purpose of the order rather than its effect.  It is well understood that orders which may be non-punitive in their purpose can have a grave impact upon the rights or interests of an individual.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn19">[19]</a> The consequences of an involuntary treatment order include the continued, indefinite, and involuntary detention of the applicant.  An involuntary treatment order affects interests in a manner that enlivens those aspects of the hearing rule articulated in <em>Towie</em>.  Procedural fairness would require that an involuntary detainee be given an opportunity to hear and respond to evidence that provides the jurisdictional basis for continued confinement. <em> In such cases the ‘usual procedure for merits review’ at VCAT that ‘the applicant goes first’ will not normally be appropriate. Nor will such procedure ordinarily be appropriate at a hearing conducted by the Board. </em>[emphasis added]<em><span id="more-1540"></span><br />
</em></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">27	We turn to consider whether in the present case the applicant was afforded a fair opportunity to be heard in accordance with the hearing rule.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">28	An adequate opportunity will not have been afforded unless the party knows what is alleged, knows what evidence is relied upon to substantiate the allegation, and has an opportunity to respond to the case against them and put forward their own case.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn20">[20]</a> Even where the process has an inquisitorial component, a party against whom adverse findings may be made, having been apprised of the issues, must be given the opportunity to put evidence and argument in response, though there be no ‘case’ being advanced against the party.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">29	The common law rules of natural justice and procedural fairness are ‘neither standardized nor immutable’.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn21">[21]</a> Their content may vary, requiring adjustment according to the circumstances of the particular case.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn22">[22]</a> In <em>Mobil Oil Australia Pty Ltd v The Commissioner of Taxation</em>,<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn23">[23]</a> Kitto J spoke of the ‘impossibility of laying down a universally valid test by which to ascertain what may constitute &#8230; an opportunity [to be heard] in the infinite variety of circumstances that may exist’.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn24">[24]</a> Stephen J, to like effect, said of the requirements of procedural fairness in <em>Salemi v MacKellar (No 2)</em>:<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn25">[25]</a></p>
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<blockquote><p>not only will their effect and application thus vary depending upon the character and function of the particular statutory tribunal or person in relation to whose deliberations they are invoked (<em>Ridge v. Baldwinper</em> per Lord Reid (11)), they may also vary from case to case although each be conducted before one and the same tribunal or person.<span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn26">[26]</a></span></p></blockquote>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">30	What may constitute an opportunity to be heard may be informed by the conduct of the parties prior to or during a hearing.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn27">[27]</a> An evaluation of the realities and not the legalities of the situation is required when dealing with the question of what fairness demands in the circumstances.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn28">[28]</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">31	The procedural consequences of the rules of procedural fairness depend upon the particular statutory framework within which they apply and upon the exigencies of the particular case.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn29">[29]</a> The relevant statutory framework is the Act and the VCAT Act.  When hearing an appeal under s 120(1) of the Act, VCAT is to undertake what was described by the deputy president as ‘a merits review’, but may be described more fully as an appeal by way of re-hearing.  The role of VCAT is to ‘stand in the shoes’ of the original decision maker.  In doing so, VCAT has a broad discretion to chose its own procedure, but that discretion is governed by the requirements of procedural fairness.<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fn30">[30]</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB20"></a><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB19">[19]</a> See, for example, <em>Al Kateb v Godwin</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2004/37.html">[2004] HCA 37</a>;  (2004) 219 CLR 562<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%282004%29%20219%20CLR%20562">.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB20">[20]</a></span> <em>Towie v Medical Practitioners Board </em><a title="View Case" href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2008/157.html">[2008] VSCA 157</a>, [36].</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB21">[21]</a></span> <em>Public Service Board (NSW) v Osmond </em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1986/7.html">[1986] HCA 7</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281986%29%20159%20CLR%20656">(1986) 159 CLR 656</a>, 676 (Deane J).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB22">[22]</a></span> <em>Laws v Australian Broadcasting Tribunal</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1990/31.html">[1990] HCA 31</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281990%29%20170%20CLR%2070">(1990) 170 CLR 70</a>, 91;  <em>Kioa v West</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1985/81.html">[1985] HCA 81</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281985%29%20159%20CLR%20550">(1985) 159 CLR 550</a>, 585 (Mason J);  <em>Mobil Oil Australia Pty Ltd v Federal Commissioner of Taxation</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1963/41.html">[1963] HCA 41</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281963%29%20113%20CLR%20475">(1963) 113 CLR 475</a>, 503-504 (Kitto J);  <em>R v The Commonwealth Conciliation and Arbitration Commission; Ex parte The Angliss Group</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1969/10.html">[1969] HCA 10</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281969%29%20122%20CLR%20546">(1969) 122 CLR 546</a>, 552-553.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB23">[23]</a></span> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1963/41.html">[1963] HCA 41</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281963%29%20113%20CLR%20475">(1963) 113 CLR 475.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB24">[24]</a></span> Ibid, 503-504 (citations omitted).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB25">[25]</a></span> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1977/26.html">[1977] HCA 26</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281977%29%20137%20CLR%20396">(1977) 137 CLR 396.</a></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB26">[26]</a></span> Ibid, 444.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB27">[27]</a></span> See, for<em> </em>example, <em>Banque Commerciale SA (in liq) v Akhil Holdings Ltd</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/1990/11.html">[1990] HCA 11</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%281990%29%20169%20CLR%20279">(1990) 169 CLR 279</a> (Mason CJ and Gaudron J);  <em>Husain v O &amp; S Holdings (Vic) Pty Ltd</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2005/269.html">[2005] VSCA 269</a> (Nettle JA) where procedural fairness was not offended by a party proceeding beyond pleadings because of the acquiescence of the other party.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB28">[28]</a></span> <em>White v Ryde Municipal Council</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%5b1977%5d%202%20NSWLR%20909">[1977] 2 NSWLR 909</a>, 925 (Reynolds JA).<span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB29"></a></span></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB29">[29]</a></span> <em>Minister for Immigration v Jia Legeng </em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2001/17.html">[2001] HCA 17</a>, [181] (Hayne J);  <em>Abebe v The Commonwealth </em>(1999) 197 CLR 510, 576 [187] (Gummow and Hayne JJ) and <em>Re Minister for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs; ex parte Applicant S154/2002 </em><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2003/60.html">[2003] HCA 60</a>;  <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/LawCite?cit=%282003%29%2077%20ALJR%201909">(2003) </a><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/mha1986128/s77.html">77 ALJR 1909</a>, 1918-1919 [57] (Gummow and Heydon JJ).</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span><a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/184.html?query=VSCA%202008%20157%20or%202008%20VSCA%20157#fnB30">[30]</a></span> As indeed the procedure of the Board is required to abide <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/mha1986128/s24.html">s 24(1).</a></p>
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		<title>Procedure in applications to set aside costs agreements</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 13:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It costs about $290 to file an application to set aside a costs agreement under s. 3.4.32 of the Legal Profession Act, 2004 in VCAT.  It is not a step lightly to be taken.  Moreso than much of what goes on in VCAT, such applications are treated like litigation in a court.  Costs will be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It costs about $290 to file an application to set aside a costs agreement under s. 3.4.32 of the <em>Legal Profession Act, 2004</em> in VCAT.  It is not a step lightly to be taken.  Moreso than much of what goes on in VCAT, such applications are treated like litigation in a court.  Costs will be awarded against the unsuccessful party much more often than in other kinds of proceedings in VCAT; indeed, it is more or less true that costs follow the event, that is, the loser generally has to pay the winner&#8217;s costs calculated according to an appropriate County Court scale.  See <a href="http://www.vcat.vic.gov.au/CA256DBB0022825D/page/Other+Disputes+at+VCAT-Legal+Practice-Costs+Agreements?OpenDocument&amp;1=75-Other+Disputes+at+VCAT~&amp;2=35-Legal+Practice~&amp;3=40-Costs+Agreements~">the page on VCAT&#8217;s website</a> about these kinds of applications, which includes the correct form for initiating these kinds of proceedings.</p>
<p>Following filing, VCAT generally sets down a directions hearing of its own motion. There is a standard form of orders which is often made.  They are reproduced below.  To avoid a directions hearing, applicants would be well-advised to include the details (&#8216;particulars&#8217; in legal lingo) the usual orders require in the application itself.  The applicant should then ask the respondent whether it will consent to doing what the usual orders generally require within, say, 2 weeks.  Alternatively, if that was not done at the outset, the parties might consider submitting the orders they would each be happy with (&#8216;a minute of consent orders&#8217; in legal lingo) in the terms of the usual orders to VCAT in advance, saving the need for a trip to VCAT if the decision maker who would otherwise preside at the directions hearing is content to make the orders on the papers.  Of course, a directions hearing may be necessary anyway.  Directions made at directions hearings are not necessarily limited to those found in the usual orders.  Nor are the usual orders always made.</p>
<p>The usual orders are:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><span id="more-1411"></span>&#8217;1.    The applicant by [date] is to serve upon the respondent and lodge with the Tribunal written particulars of:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(a)    the costs agreement which is the subject matter of the application. The applicant is to provide to the respondent and to the Tribunal a photocopy of the costs agreement;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(b)    any other document that is relied upon by the applicant as evidence of a costs agreement. The applicant is to provide to the respondent and to the Tribunal a photocopy of any such document;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(c)    any conduct that is relied upon by the applicant as evidence of a costs agreement;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(d)    the statutory basis of the application, including whether the application is based upon an allegation of fraud or misrepresentation, a finding of misconduct or unsatisfactory conduct, an allegation of failure to disclosure information, or some other basis;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(e)    the facts or circumstances to be relied upon in support of each statutory basis of the application;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(f)    the legal services provided to the applicant by the respondent.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">2. The respondent by [date] is to serve upon the applicant and lodge with the Tribunal the respondent&#8217;s response to the application, including written particulars of:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(a)    the costs agreement referred to in the application. The respondent is to provide to the applicant and to the Tribunal a photocopy of the costs agreement;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(b)    any other document that the respondent relies upon as evidence of a costs agreement. The respondent is to provide to the applicant and to the Tribunal a photocopy of any such document;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(c)    any conduct that is relied upon by the respondent as evidence of a costs agreement;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">(d)    the legal services the respondent contends to be the subject matter of the alleged costs agreement.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">3.    The applicant or the respondent may apply to the Tribunal at any time seeking further directions as to the conduct of the application.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">4.    The costs of the directions hearing that took place on [date of directions hearing] are reserved.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>Sex offence doctor&#8217;s VCAT success stayed pending appeal</title>
		<link>http://lawyerslawyer.net/2009/08/04/sex-offence-doctors-vcat-success-stayed-pending-appeal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Herald Sun has been active recently with front page excoriation of VCAT&#8217;s professional regulatory review jurisdiction for letting loose on the public again those they have described in unusually large letters as &#8216;sex fiends&#8217; and &#8216;insane killers&#8216;.  The two decisions are SL v Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria [2008] VCAT 2077, a decision of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <em>Herald Sun</em> has been active recently with front page excoriation of VCAT&#8217;s professional regulatory review jurisdiction for letting loose on the public again those they have described in unusually large letters as &#8216;<a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24552266-2862,00.html">sex fiend</a>s&#8217; and &#8216;<a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24707890-2862,00.html">insane killers</a>&#8216;.  The two decisions are <em>SL v Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2008/2077.html">[2008] VCAT 2077</a>, a decision of Judge Ross&#8217;s tribunal, and <em>XJF v Director of Public Transport</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCAT/2008/2303.html">[2008] VCAT 2303</a>, a decision of Deputy President Macnamara.  Given that the psychiatric evidence about the taxi driver was &#8216;emphatically favourable&#8217;, the homicide occurred 18 years ago, and the taxi driver, whose son has leukemia and needs flexible work, has led an apparently blameless and psychiatrically acceptable life since, the <em>Hun</em> was a bit harsh. It surely cannot be right to call a man who committed a homicide two decades ago in the grip of a psychosis from which he has recovered an &#8216;insane killer&#8217; in such a way as to refer to the present.</p>
<p>The taxi driver decision was <a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,24709241-2862,00.html">reversed legislatively</a>. The Medical Practitioners Board appealed the doctor&#8217;s success in VCAT.  Justices of Appeal Redlich and Weinberg granted an unusual stay of VCAT&#8217;s decision: <em>Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria v SL</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2008/264.html">[2008] VSCA 264</a>. The appeal ultimately failed: <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2009/109.html?query=VCAT%202008%202077%20or%202008%20VCAT%202077">[2009] VSCA 109</a>.</p>
<p><span id="more-804"></span> The Medical Practitioners Board had cancelled the doctor&#8217;s registration following his conviction for sex offences involving patients.  Years later, he had applied for re-registration, and was knocked back.  He applied to VCAT for review.  It granted the review, deciding that the correct and preferable decision for the Board to have made was to allow him back into practice subject to strict conditions, such as that he not treat women.  The Board appealed that decision to the Court of Appeal, and applied for a stay of VCAT&#8217;s order pending determination of the appeal.  More usually, of course, the professional applies for a stay of a decision disentitling him or her to practise pending appeal.  The Board succeeded in its stay application: <em>Medical Practitioners Board of Victoria v SL</em> <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VSCA/2008/264.html">[2008] VSCA 264</a>.  Their Honours summarised the VCAT decision of Judge Ross&#8217;s tribunal, and then said this in granting the stay:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">&#8217;14	The question that remains to be determined is whether, pending hearing and determination of the appeal, the respondent should be permitted to practise in accordance with the Tribunal&#8217;s finding.  We were informed from the Bar table by counsel who appeared for the respondent that he has not engaged in any medical work since 2003, but that he now wishes to return to the practice of medicine.  It appears that he is presently seeking a position with a group practice and that an interview has been arranged.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">15	It goes without saying that an appeal does not of itself operate as a stay.  Moreover, the jurisdiction to grant a stay pending an application for leave to appeal will only be exercised in exceptional circumstances.  This Court, having already granted leave to appeal, may not be so constrained.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">16	But, in any event, the factors that are relevant include the prospects that the appeal will be successful, the balance of convenience, and any prejudice that will flow to either party from granting or refusing the stay.  As a general proposition, the respondent should not lightly be denied the ‘fruits’ of his success before the Tribunal.  It is clear that the onus rests upon the party seeking the stay.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">17	Despite the careful findings of the Tribunal, we have concluded that the Board has discharged that onus.  We are influenced to some degree in arriving at that conclusion by the fact that this appeal can be expedited and heard relatively soon.  Enquiries with the Registry indicate that the appeal can be listed for hearing very early on in term two next year.  We propose to direct that that course be followed.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">18	There is nothing to indicate that the respondent is presently suffering undue hardship by being unable to practise medicine.  He is currently employed in a book-keeping capacity and appears to be able to make a living.  At worst, he will face a stay of some few months, which will delay his return to practise for a relatively short time.  Given that he has not been practising for some six years, a delay of a few months longer does not strike us as gravely prejudicial.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">19	In addition, it should be borne in mind that this is not a commercial dispute between two private litigants.  The paramount consideration must be the protection of the public.  To refuse the stay would require a conclusion on our part, albeit a provisional one, that the public welfare will be adequately protected, that being the primary question which must be resolved on the appeal.  The public interest will be best served, we have concluded, if the respondent does not return to his practice as a doctor, even under close supervision, until this Court has determined whether he should be permitted to do so.  It would serve no one&#8217;s interest if the respondent were to treat patients for several months and then find his registration once again cancelled.&#8217;</p>
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